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Judith S
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 Posted - 06 Mar 2006 : 09:43:41 AM
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I think this subject has been discussed before - so sorry for bringing it up again!
I've noticed recently that Maj my 4 yr old Arab filly appears to have some pigment loss on the skin just below her eyes - its not much but its there. Shes chestnut & appears to be in good health & her usual cheery self. The other mares she lives with, two chestnuts & a bay don't appear to have any pigment loss, they all have the same diet (mix rich in all vitamins/minerals, home grown haylage & grass).
Help please!
Judith
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suneanarab
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Posted - 06 Mar 2006 : 11:22:07 AM
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| this is a common thing in chestnut arabs, you will probably find that she has sabino blood in her somewhere. vitiligo (spelling) is common in arabs in general and so long as the diet is good it should resolve itself. one of odin's colts had the same thing for one coat change. a friends tb mare used to have a patch in a different place every year. while it may look a bit unsightly it shouldn't be a prob. |
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Judith S
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Posted - 06 Mar 2006 : 11:42:46 AM
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Hi Suzanne
thanks for that - I didn't think it was something to get hysterical over! Maj does have a couple of flecked white patches on her sides - her breeder said it came through her dams line - is that Sabino?
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helen.b
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Posted - 06 Mar 2006 : 7:56:46 PM
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| i've heard it can be related to copper deficiency, that might be worth looking into |
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suneanarab
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Posted - 08 Mar 2006 : 12:15:45 PM
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hi judith,
yep if mum has it as well then that's sabino. you can get it bays as well but it tends to be rare compared to the chestnuts. odin's first sun is very sandy chestnut and has no white at all other than his blaze and a very small tip on his near fore (like an ermine mark) but he has had it happen where a patch appears and then disapears and diet has made no difference at all.
i'm just waiting to see what happens to jack (kelly on here has him) his full sister didn't get bird spots till she was 7. jack is marked exactly like odin (his dad) and odin didn't get his spots till he was 9.
so look out for more. chances are that the patch will not be there by the next coat change, but she may get then elsewhere.
hope this helps
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Basilisk
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Judith S
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Posted - 09 Mar 2006 : 4:16:04 PM
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Hi - thanks all! So - whats the difference between Sabino & Rabicano (I haven't heard of that!)?
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Nedds71
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Posted - 26 Mar 2006 : 8:41:57 PM
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Hi Judith,
I have a chestnut mare that gets pigment lose around her eyes. I feed seaweed in her diet which after about 4-6 weeks of feeding stops the pigment loss. Unfortunately you can't feed seaweed in the last four months of gestasion, but then once the foal is born all is ok.
Right now my mare is virtually white around her eye as she is due early July. |
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Lisa
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Vera
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Posted - 27 Mar 2006 : 09:13:14 AM
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If you decide to try Copperplex (this is the stuff I sing praises about) then make sure you get Copperplex not Copper-plex as they are two different products.
Will do a search and bring the details up for you.
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Vera
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Posted - 27 Mar 2006 : 09:29:21 AM
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Here's the info
Vera and Dennis
Arabs have a bit of a predisposition to depigmentation or sometimes called 'pinky syndrome'. The cause isn't really known but it is thought to be caused by a copper defiency but not really proven.
You could get some blood tests done. You put him on a high copper supplement like Copperplex – not to be confused with Copper-plex, they are two different products. Speak to Silv, who posts on here as she has had great success with it. Last year Dennis had a small pink spot appear on his muzzle and another by his eye and it disappeared within 10 days of feeding Copperplex.
Have a look at this website and type in Copperplex into the search bar, before and after pictures of Silv’s very handsome gelding Taz show just how good this product is. It’s £24 a tub.
http://www.hhss.biz/store/erol.html
The text reads….
Copperplex
MINERAL DEFICIENCY??
The levels of copper found in many pastures, hay and common feedstuffs is often too low to meet daily requirements.
Copperplex has been formulated to help prevent such imbalances. Lack of copper in the diet can result in impaired muscle function, anaemia, coat depigmentation and developmental orthopaedic disease.
Copperplex is a unique combination of highly available organic and inorganic copper sources, allowing for highly efficient absorption and utilisation.
Copper deficiency can result in:
-Developmental orthopaedic disease (DOD)
-Impaired muscle function, which may restrict freedom of movement
-A compromised immune system
-Reduced synthesis of haemoglobin, which may result in anaemia
-Progressive coat depigmentation and decolouration (pale circular patches, white rings around the eyes.)
Copperplex is a unique combination of organic copper proteinates and inorganic copper sulphate providing a combination of highly available copper sources. Recent research has shown that a mixture of organic and inorganic compounds results in the greatest efficiency of copper absorbtion and correction of any deficiency.
Copperplex contains Zinc that helps promote enzyme activation and skin, hair, blood and bone development. By using a combination of organic and inorganic zinc copperplex helps ensure the vital zinc : copper ratio is maintained.
Copperplex also contains vitamin E (an anti-oxidant promoting reproductive efficiency and maintenance of muscular integrity,) and selenium (at very low levels using bio available seleno-yeast). Selenium is an anti-oxidant that works alongside vitamin E in maintaining muscle cell membrane integrity
Uses:
· For horses in training to maintain freedom of movement
· For broodmares and youngstock to maintain healthy growth and development
· For all horses and ponies in copper deficient areas where any of the indications may arise such as coat depigmentation
· Arabian horses that are particularly prone to coat depigmentation due to lack of sufficient copper.
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dassa23
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Posted - 27 Mar 2006 : 10:51:06 AM
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| I think you will find this is due to a selenium deficeincy. A supplement will sort the problem out. |
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