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Topic author: abcoboy
Subject: Breeding with another Breed
Posted on: 12 Aug 2010 4:30:34 PM
Message:

Just wondering .... in the future, I'd love to breed from my purebred (for me - not to sell) BUT just looking at different breeds to maybe cross her with ... any suggestions??

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Reply author: nikki83
Replied on: 12 Aug 2010 4:47:04 PM
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I personally like the Quarter horse / Arab cross.
Nikki x


Reply author: moatside
Replied on: 12 Aug 2010 5:03:30 PM
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Welsh x Arab for me!!


Reply author: Suelin
Replied on: 12 Aug 2010 5:24:17 PM
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Connemara x Arab is a lovely cross and very useful as well.


Reply author: nissibay
Replied on: 12 Aug 2010 5:28:28 PM
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if anyone has pix of their crosses id like to see if u fancied posting them? just a thought


Reply author: sab2
Replied on: 12 Aug 2010 6:17:53 PM
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I have bred a lovely filly this year she is a Arab cross Trakehner and having seen a few of them they do make a fab cross, it all depends what you are looking to breed of course and what you would like to compete in with your new foal.I woul;d put pics on but having tried a few times i have now fallen out with Flickr sorry. Good luck in your choice.


Reply author: Tomos
Replied on: 12 Aug 2010 6:25:11 PM
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Definately the Hispano Arabe (arab/ Andalusian) for me, pics on my web site

Mandy


Reply author: Cate
Replied on: 12 Aug 2010 6:45:10 PM
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Having owned a beautiful Hispano Arabe mare I must agree with Tomos. Fabulous cross.


Reply author: taranstorm
Replied on: 12 Aug 2010 6:54:43 PM
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Arab x saddlebred for me! as i already own one


Reply author: geegee
Replied on: 12 Aug 2010 7:04:18 PM
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Arab x Percheron, for me But I do love Hispano Arabs too...


Reply author: s.jade
Replied on: 12 Aug 2010 9:56:38 PM
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Can't beat a good TB I reckon


Reply author: littlearabians
Replied on: 12 Aug 2010 10:02:26 PM
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My boy covered 2 welsh mares last year, here is the results

Eowyns First Rose 15 days old:





Eowyns Orlando
1 day old:


nearly 3 months old:


this year he has covered 1 TB mare, and another one should come this month.


Reply author: Callisto
Replied on: 12 Aug 2010 10:24:09 PM
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Love the photos of the welsh x foals especially Orlando


Reply author: nissibay
Replied on: 12 Aug 2010 10:25:54 PM
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Arrhh they are beautiful!!!


Reply author: Miska
Replied on: 12 Aug 2010 10:30:15 PM
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This is my arab x quarter horse (the sire is QH, mare is arab)




She's a lovely build being a teeny bit stockier than an arab.

Although I love her to bits, she has been very slow to mature (she is still a baby at seven). She loves jumping but I think she is definitely not a natural.

However she will go on for ever and ever if she's in the mood and can go very fast. I haven't dared take her to her top speed yet!

It all depends really on what you would want your foal for


Reply author: MinHe
Replied on: 12 Aug 2010 10:33:30 PM
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The Spanish/Arab cross is very saleable - an important consideration these days!

Keren


Reply author: NatH
Replied on: 13 Aug 2010 09:12:25 AM
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Thoroughbred for me.

Sadly our Anglo-Arabs are so rare now, they are like 'hens teeth' as Mrs Vlacq put it!


Reply author: abcoboy
Replied on: 13 Aug 2010 09:14:45 AM
Message:

Wonderful replies guys and even better with pics ... going to check the bryndyfab web now

I’ve seen an absolutely beautiful hannovarian stallion – http://www.wolkenderry.co.uk/index.php - anyone know of a hannovarian x arab?


Reply author: pinkvboots
Replied on: 13 Aug 2010 09:36:40 AM
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Littlearabians your foals are gorgeous I could take one home I also like the Arab x QH but I would like a Arab x Oldenburg or a similar warmblood type the Hanoverian are a lovely type to, must say though I like most of the Arab crosses that I have seen. Alcoboy have a look on the internet they do exist.


Reply author: vjc
Replied on: 13 Aug 2010 09:37:16 AM
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I agree with moatside, all my performance line have welsh D blood, it is such a fabulous cross. Here is a picture of Elmdale Enthusiast (full brother to Elmdale extrovert)







Hopefully there is a new kid on the block Elmdale exhibitionist who is also full brother to both above has just been broken.


Reply author: nn
Replied on: 13 Aug 2010 3:16:39 PM
Message:

TB or trakehner

Nicky


Reply author: vjc
Replied on: 13 Aug 2010 5:24:14 PM
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Lovely cross to nikki, my sister has a stunning yearling arab/trekhaner cross and he really moves!!!!


Reply author: george
Replied on: 13 Aug 2010 6:38:36 PM
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Arab/Trakehner is absolutely fabulous


Reply author: sab2
Replied on: 13 Aug 2010 9:15:10 PM
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I think i have done this right , this is my Arab/ Trakehner filly.


Reply author: sab2
Replied on: 13 Aug 2010 9:16:57 PM
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mmmmmmmm maybe not, wish they would not change things, im getting too old for computers


Reply author: Callisto
Replied on: 13 Aug 2010 9:21:54 PM
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Sab2 if you click on the link you can look at your photo, she's very nice


Reply author: Lindsay
Replied on: 13 Aug 2010 9:36:02 PM
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How about an arab x friesian? Anyone had one or ever seen one?


Reply author: sab2
Replied on: 13 Aug 2010 9:37:36 PM
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Well there you go , not qiute the same as everybody elses posts but i tried , will practice more


Reply author: vjc
Replied on: 13 Aug 2010 9:40:25 PM
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very nice Sab 2, will have to post a pic up of my sisters yearling, but like you i cannot understand this new flickr layout
arabxfriesian, very interesting, would love to see one


Reply author: Rui
Replied on: 13 Aug 2010 9:42:53 PM
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Originally posted by sab2

Well there you go , not qiute the same as everybody elses posts but i tried , will practice more

Fixed your picture, the link in my sig explains how to use flickr after their recent change.


Reply author: vjc
Replied on: 13 Aug 2010 9:56:28 PM
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You are a star Rui, I think there are a few of us who are totally bamboozled by the changes!!!


Reply author: sab2
Replied on: 13 Aug 2010 10:10:40 PM
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Thankyou


Reply author: Rui
Replied on: 13 Aug 2010 10:17:34 PM
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You're both welcome .

Flickr's recent change makes it harder, indeed, to use their pictures here, but feel totally free to post any doubts you may have and we'll try to solve them .


Reply author: lisa rachel
Replied on: 13 Aug 2010 10:24:35 PM
Message:

Welshx Arab is lovely (our Hamnah's breeding), Iberian crosses are drop dead gorgeous, brave and intelligent... Tomos's are lovely, well worth a peek at her website and I love Anglos but for me the best stallion to use on a purebred mare is a purebred stallion, sorry, I know I am being narrow minded but for me nothing else comes close....


Reply author: Nichole Waller
Replied on: 13 Aug 2010 10:31:18 PM
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I've got a Welsh x Arab (although 75% welsh) and she is great fun. There was a straight cross Arab Welsh on our yard a few years ago and she was a fab jumping horse and excellent at hunting.

I really like the look of the Hispano Arabe though..


Reply author: Miska
Replied on: 13 Aug 2010 10:45:27 PM
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Arabo friesians are gorgeous! Not that I've ever seen one in the flesh, only pictures. I think I read somewhere that the breeding of them is quite restricted because of their huge potential as carriage horses. They tend to be bred more friesian than arab.


Reply author: natntaz
Replied on: 13 Aug 2010 10:51:09 PM
Message:

I used to own a arab x welsh, she was lovely but much
more fiery than my pure breds

If i am honest though and i am not saying this to wind
anyone up i believe if you have a pure bred you shouldnt
breed down you should keep them pure. This is just my
opinion. I am not saying that x's do work well just that
if something is pure i personally would keep it that way


Reply author: Spangle
Replied on: 13 Aug 2010 10:54:02 PM
Message:

Originally posted by vjc


arabxfriesian, very interesting, would love to see one


All being well there should be one in Southern Scotland next year- being bred by a very good friend of mine- her fresian mare has done very well in Endurance- up to 120km so fingers crossed for a cracker of a foal.

I have had an Arab x Welsh mare Anoushka, who was fantastic- a real character but we had an amazing relationship and she was so much fun when we worked each other out!

Anoushka 1995

1999


2001?

I currently have Spangle- a 4 yo Arab/ TB/ Highland- Arab Stallion used on TB/Highland Mare. She sounds very similar to the ArabxQH pictured and descibed earlier and I think will also take a while to mature. Whilst I never intended getting something similar to my old mare I have ended up with something that could hardly have been more like her- hopefully we have just as great times together! She is a future endurance prospect but will also have a dressage and possibly ridden showing career as well.
Spangle Summer 2010

Spangle Winter 2009



2008 as a 2 yr old


Reply author: xsara
Replied on: 14 Aug 2010 12:28:06 AM
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I have a arab x warmblood she is turning out to be nice.


Reply author: Jamana
Replied on: 14 Aug 2010 08:11:25 AM
Message:

If i am honest though and i am not saying this to wind
anyone up i believe if you have a pure bred you shouldnt
breed down you should keep them pure.


I can see your point here. IMO to cross Arab onto another breed, the Arab should come from the stallion. Pure Arab mares should produce the future pure Arabs. After all a mare has far less chance to reproduce her genes than a stallion. To my mind the Anglos are beautiful, BUT (again just IMO) should only be out of TB mares not the other way round.

Lets face it, anything with Arab blood added is going to be lovely


Reply author: kimzi
Replied on: 14 Aug 2010 09:58:56 AM
Message:

Hi lindsay the arab x fresian aka turbo fresian is very popular on the continent and is now being thought of as the premier breed for trials driving


Reply author: littlearabians
Replied on: 14 Aug 2010 10:22:46 AM
Message:

Natntaz:

I can see your point... but I do keep my own pure Polish, however if people finds that my boy would be fantastic for producing partbreds, its fine with me as long as I can see a purpose in combining the 2 breeds.


regarding arab x friesian.... I do hope it is ok to post this link to a danish site, a post with pictures of a arabo friesian foal.
http://www.heste-nettet.dk/forum/14/933603/933603/


Reply author: rollin
Replied on: 14 Aug 2010 2:29:33 PM
Message:

I have two rare breeds - Shagya Arabs and Cleveland Bays.

Here is the first cross of the two out of my CB mare who was a Champion Small Hunter. At three months Aurora Leigh is feisty and independent. Having a look round the yard while mum is with farrier.


Reply author: saddlebred
Replied on: 14 Aug 2010 5:57:28 PM
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It does depend what you want them for but I would have to give another vote for the Arab x Saddlebred (AKA American Sporthorse or American National Show Horse).

There arent many in this country and I dont have one..... yet.... so cant post any pictures.

I have to say though I love purebreds but what a sad world it would be if we kept them pure....

... a world with no palomino PBAs , no Welsh ponies, no Thoroughbreds, no trakehners or Anglos etc etc. Every light horse is descended from the beautiful arabian. Thank goodness our ancestors had the foresight to spread the genes rather than "keep them pure".


Reply author: Callisto
Replied on: 14 Aug 2010 6:51:08 PM
Message:

I like the sound of the Cleveland Bay x Arab combination, I used to own a TB x CB mare, she was a fantastic sensitive ride and a brilliant jumper, she was also incredibly fast, but so safe. Sadly lost her when she was 24, but a marvellous valiant lady. Your filly is very nice Rollin.


Reply author: natntaz
Replied on: 14 Aug 2010 8:51:16 PM
Message:

I have seen some great x's with arabs in the past
but just feel it should come from the stallion rather
than to out x a pure mare.

I am not a lover of coloured horses but i have to say
i have seen a few x Arabs that have been very nice.

Ultimately as long as you are looking to improve that
must be a good thing


Reply author: rollin
Replied on: 14 Aug 2010 9:10:10 PM
Message:

Callisto that is nice to hear. Both CB's and Shagya's jump and have great stamina. One CB mare was 9th in the UK cup at 80km endurance.

Do you remember the name of your mare's dam? If so I can look her up in the stud book.


Reply author: Callisto
Replied on: 14 Aug 2010 10:22:11 PM
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Rollin, sadly I didn't have her pedigree so I don't know her dam's name, she'd been used for sport horse breeding before I bought her, but at some stage before that she had been very well schooled. I wasn' t really too worried about her breeding when I bought her, I was just looking for a nice riding horse for my husband, we had no idea of her abilities ( don't think the seller did either). She could trot at 16-18 km an hour for miles and she easily beat a 4 year old tb bred for the track in a gallop on the beach when she was about 14, so I can easily believe that they make excellent performance horses in a number of spheres, and crossed with an Arab would make a superb endurance horse.


Reply author: mouse
Replied on: 18 Aug 2010 5:44:28 PM
Message:

What about Arab x Appaloosa? Puts a bit more substance on the Arab and very popular for endurance

Mouse


Reply author: leiat8
Replied on: 18 Aug 2010 6:09:40 PM
Message:

hey personally i think this is a great cross


the arab mule


Reply author: sab2
Replied on: 18 Aug 2010 6:16:44 PM
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Leiat8 i love it, we have a couple of donkeys live with us wonder if my arab boy fancies the jenny ( only joking) must admit the arab mule looks so cute, wonder if its been bred for showing,endurance or ridden classes ( only joking again)


Reply author: Cate
Replied on: 18 Aug 2010 6:18:17 PM
Message:

leiat8, Absolutely gorgeous.


Reply author: honey
Replied on: 18 Aug 2010 6:27:33 PM
Message:

this is my part bred her sire was sistonce who was a straight russian arab. dam as said was a 3/4tb x cob



Reply author: vjc
Replied on: 19 Aug 2010 10:34:33 AM
Message:

Am loving this thread fab horses folks


Reply author: Nichole Waller
Replied on: 19 Aug 2010 3:17:27 PM
Message:

Did anyone see 'Under the spell of horses' on the H & C channel...? What about a Marwari x Arab...? That might make an interesting horse...?


http://www.horsemarwari.com/pic/hansraj.jpg

http://www.horsemarwari.com/pic1/shyamla_filly.jpg

http://www.horsemarwari.com/pic/tallulah.jpg

http://www.horsemarwari.com/horses.htm

http://www.horsemarwari.com/pic/alamguman.jpg


Reply author: leiat8
Replied on: 19 Aug 2010 6:10:43 PM
Message:

i saw it that would be a fab cross and a cracking endurance horse! once saw an akhal teke x arab, beautiful metallic dun


Reply author: karen d
Replied on: 19 Aug 2010 8:16:22 PM
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Our Araloosa, By my Arab stallion Calimeer out of our Appaloosa mare 'pumpkin'!!









Reply author: Kazhak
Replied on: 19 Aug 2010 9:45:54 PM
Message:

for me I would have to say Arabian Pony, as there is such a huge range within the cross. of course I'm still for purebred breeding too, but crossing the Arab over other breeds has produced some very interesting results.. will admit that I think arab crossed over anything can be a major improvement for the other breed lol..

when my family first started breeding horses we started breeding welsh section b ponies then got involved with Arabians & some of our first Arabian Pony crosses ended up over 15 hh's, we couldn't believe it.

today I still ride Arabian ponies, all family bred for several generations back.. & I find them to be very versatile, I ride endurance, they have class & beauty enough for showing if I want to, make great mounts for general purpose riding, have the welsh sensibility & the Arabian passion for life,

heres a few pics of some of our Arabian ponies over the years.

Kolahai Bay Beauty, (Kolahai Rissaam x Kolahai Bay Princess) is 50/50 I now ride her son who is 3/4's Arabian.

^ photo was taken when we were both very very young.. I still remember what a great day that was though. Beauty had been on her best behaviour the whole day, was a parents dream pony. her son is the little bay with the blue water background in my signature.

this next photo were taken by Matt Bennett, a sports photographer here in aus, he has done some terrific work for our endurance club,

Kolahai Jack Flash, (Belbowrie Progression x Cefn-On Parc Lady Chelsea) 50/50 built like a royal brick outhouse, gets his solidness from his sire, this photo was taken at a local 40 km endurance ride, he trotted pretty much the whole way, without having to be pushed, & had only had a few weeks training before we did this one.. still vetted through sound as a button.. he's my mums riding horse but she rarely rides these days..


I have others but I realise my post is getting a bit long.. would've posted some pics of my riding mare but I haven't got the nice ones loaded on the comp yet lol.

like others have suggested first think about what it is you'd like to do with the resulting equine, & what sought of look your after.. & then start looking at the different breeds.. still can't beat a purebred for its versatility too though..

lastly will admit that I don't mind a good Anglo, the Arab improves the TB outta sight.. Arabian warmbloods are rather nice too, as you've got the height + the beauty.







Reply author: Gemma
Replied on: 20 Aug 2010 09:48:31 AM
Message:

My beloved Marygold (Minnismoor Mistique) is an interesting mix of breeds: arab, tb and welsh sections.

She's by a riding pony stallion (Burstye Trajan - himself a PBA) out of an anglo-arab mare(Savoir Mistique).

She's the chestnut in the pics below. 14.3, chunky and demonstrates the best (and worst!) of her breeding. She's very much a jack-of-all-trades but has done brilliantly at her endurance career. I suspect she was bred to be a WHP, and in the right hands, would probably have done very well, but showing just ain't my thing.

I adore the arab breed and whilst I can understand wanting to keep them pure, can also see the advantages of crossing to other breeds. Look at all the beautiful, useful looking horses on this thread for example!

With the current attitude of a lot of people towards the arab breed, perhaps breeding to other breeds, and seeing the offspring do well in ALL spheres (Tamarillo is the obvious example) is a good thing? perhaps we can start to show people that arabs are anything but the prancing poodle at the end of a leadrope!!


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